Obviously I like it very much and the beginning bars are fantastic (as is often the case with Beethoven. I think he put much thought into especially the beginning of a piece) but I still disagree... The fifth is magical, most of all the transition between the 3rd and 4th movement is and the first movement is ofc perfect. I have to confess that I have not listened to the 3rd and 4th movement of the fourth though. (likewise with the 3rd! Probably prefer the 3rd over the fourth as well. The 1st movement is something else for sure... and the 2nd movement has so much I am so weak for the major section)
the theme in the fourth is so heroic but more beautiful than those. also syncopes
the 9th is the best (and that's even... pleb-er)
the definite beethoven symphonies rank list
1. the ninth 'choral'
2. the third 'eroica'
3. the fifth 'fate'
4. the sixth 'pastoral'
5. the seventh
6. the fourth
7. the eigth
and who has even listened to 1-2?
ok i put it there more because of what it meant for Beethoven's works after that. In terms of creativity it should maybe be above the ninth... but i would put it between the seventh and the fourth at rank 5 were it not for that.
also eyy I've played the first movement on the 6th symphony on the piano, was planning to make it for a concert on the countryside haha but it wasn't ready for that date : / great great great music for piano though
9th as first is clichéd, sure, but it really is one of the greatest symphonies and one of the greatest works period. Completely redefined the "symphony". Now ranking Mahler would be a bit harder...
I kinda like his hypothetical 10th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKoE1f7evDA
The melody in the beginning is similar to and has the same bass line as the third movement of his ninth and the second movement of his 'pathetique' sonata. He must have been really fond of that... Or could it be that these wered actually scetches for his ninth?...
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