Invader Zim
Junior Camper
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Mona Simpson is a horrible person
Mona Simpson is a horrible person
Ah that makes sense why I didn't remember it then. I've only seen that once and it was quite a while ago, so I have a rather hazy recollection of it at best.Werking Mom! To be fair, it's an episode where she is being kind for its own sake but yeah, when you have the writers make some big statements like that, she can't live up to them, nobody can on a show like this. In a way it's kinda cruel to put those expectations on her...
Ha ha sorry about that. I do have a tendency to go a bit overboard when Lisa talk happens and I'm clearly delightful to talk to.Damn, now that I think of it, didn't expect to wind up in such an extensive discussion with @I Love Lisa, especially not in this thread (as I feel it would fit better in on the character analysis thread, so maybe we could continue there, or dedicate an entire thread to the discussion and analysis of Bart & Lisa's sibling relationship?).
Ha ha sorry about that. I do have a tendency to go a bit overboard when Lisa talk happens and I'm clearly delightful to talk to.I did enjoy the extensive discussion, but you're right that it's probably derailing the thread a bit so best to leave it there.
Might as well give my hottest take: Past the duo of Dead Putting Society and When Flanders Failed (where he's actually really good), Ned is a genuinely bad character only valued so much because of iconography more than actual writing.
To wit, I went over a lot of this, but basically the problem with Flanders is that, as a character, the writers continued using him even when it was very apparent they had no idea what on earth to do with him, purely because of being ostensibly important. Ned is really good in those two stories because he has a clear narrative role and relationship with Homer, but beyond that the majority of his appearances (with a few small exceptions I do like) are either just repeating the same jokes or taking him in weird directions purely because they can.Would be cool with some elaboration on why you think Ned has been a really bad character outside those two episodes.
I actually think my hottest take is the opposite: Flanders is my favourite side character by far and I personally hate that term, 'flanderization'. In fact, my point of view is that Flanders is one of the more complex characters in Springfield.
I entirely agree with all of this.I actually think my hottest take is the opposite: Flanders is my favourite side character by far and I personally hate that term, 'flanderization'. In fact, my point of view is that Flanders is one of the more complex characters in Springfield.
I personally have no issue whatsoever with the writers retrofitting Kirk in this fashion.Sure they could invent new characters but when they have a hyper religious guy like Ned and a pathetic sadsack like Kirk they really don't need to.
Boom, you spoke my mind.I've seen similar comments about Kirk recently being a maga-type. Thing is if the Simpsons is going to keep on being itself then they need to be able to mock society, which in turn means they need characters to represent those kinds of elements. Sure they could invent new characters but when they have a hyper religious guy like Ned and a pathetic sadsack like Kirk they really don't need to.
It was unrealistic how the mob forgave Bart and wanted to make it up to him.- I love "The boys of bummer" because of how mean-spirited it is. It's a great parody of how over the top sports fans can react to someone doing poorly one time.
she did abandon her family. she should have taken homer with her, abe didn't give a shit.Thanks for sticking up for “The Boys of Bummer” and especially “My Sister, my sitter”but please take back what you said about Mona ...
Just thought of it because funny enough the only other episode I remember doing this for is New Kids on the Blecch. That felt like it had 15 plot lines before the episode started.- "New kids on the blecch" and "Simpsons safari" are some of the better season 12 episodes.
I don't think it's that unpopular truth be told, I've always thought most people around here, at least the most erudite, don't find it very good, especially because of Bart suffering and Homer leaning on the earliest stages of "jerkass Homer".I just looked at the Bart Star reviews here, I think not liking it so much I didnt even finish the episode is probably unpopular. Thing is I dont remember it at all so I couldnt even tell you what it was.