SAG-AFTRA / WGA Strike 2023

Financial Panther said:
Hey, you might want to try not to correct people’s English; many find it annoying. I know it’s hard to let a mistake go by; I proofread stuff for a living, so I totally get the pain of finding mistakes online but being criticized for pointing them out. It’s just a curse we grammar folk have to live with. So I’m just letting you know that for your sake, you should probably hold off on the corrections.
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Sorry about that. I'll be careful next time.
 
CousinMerl said:
deadline.com

WGA Slams Studios’ Latest Offer & Meeting As Attempt To Make Guild “Cave”; “Not To Bargain, But To Jam Us”

Just hours after the studios and streamers made public their latest “comprehensive package” toward a deal with the striking WGA, the guild has responded – and it seems the AMPTP and top CEOs might …
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A turnout to no one's surprise (I assume). Studios tried to pull a fast one but it failed. Miserably. This will never work out if the greedy sociopathic studio heads keep doing this type of crap. They will need to negotiate for real, back off when necessary and be able to cave in to rightful demand or the strike will keep going on and on with no end in sight (and with how things are going, it seem to be likely).

Oh well...
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I suspect the big issue here is that a part of the demand is that writers / actors want to profit from streaming, which means that studios will be more or less forced to show their hands how those numbers and profit looks - and I highly suspect that streaming just isn't profitable for most companies despite them seemingly pouring a ton of money into making their own platforms. In the long run, it means admitting to their investors that they've pushed cash into seemingly dead-end streaming platforms and it'll devalue their stock.

So yeah, I don't see this ending soon.
 
Financial Panther said:
Hey, you might want to try not to correct people’s English; many find it annoying. I know it’s hard to let a mistake go by; I proofread stuff for a living, so I totally get the pain of finding mistakes online but being criticized for pointing them out. It’s just a curse we grammar folk have to live with. So I’m just letting you know that for your sake, you should probably hold off on the corrections.
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angeldeb82 said:
Sorry about that. I'll be careful next time.
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Hey it's okay, you guys. I understand both you @Financial Panther & @angeldeb82. Didn't get soupset about it other than for a brief moment, as I felt it wasn't 100% necessary (plus was fairly busy with other things such as other forum businesses) and was expecting a reply to the news I posted). Didn't mean for the response to be some criticism at angeldeb at all (as I'm open to being corrected if I say something wrong), but I guess the timing wasn't the best.

I'm usually trying my best to proofread before I post but sometime there's something getting in the way or I just forget and move on, or I remember an go back to edit some more which I may have done this time too (so in a way, I'm glad someone pointed it out so I could fix it: Oddly enough that mistake I haven't done before so I dunno why I had the words thrown around; sometimes things like that happens when I move around words and sections of the text in a post so it is possible that happened now. Had a bit more time posted, I'd likely have returned and fixed it (as it'd be something I would have noticed when reading it again

Yet, it's good to hear you'll be more careful next time, angeldeb82: I get why you'd want to point out some grammar mistakes, but some may not take kindly to be corrected (some definitely not). Just a tip for the future

Also, apologies if I sounded like a jerk in that reply. Edited it a bit to sound more positive and less snide.
 
tommie said:
I suspect the big issue here is that a part of the demand is that writers / actors want to profit from streaming, which means that studios will be more or less forced to show their hands how those numbers and profit looks - and I highly suspect that streaming just isn't profitable for most companies despite them seemingly pouring a ton of money into making their own platforms. In the long run, it means admitting to their investors that they've pushed cash into seemingly dead-end streaming platforms and it'll devalue their stock.

So yeah, I don't see this ending soon.
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One problem might be, how do you determine the "profitability" of a streamed show where the service has a no-ads tier? Can Paramount or Hulu determine how many views of an episode of Star Trek Picard or Futurama were by people who didn't get ads, and how many were by people who did?

How does this sort of thing work with syndicated shows? How is it determined how much, say, Sofia Vergara or Rico Rodriguez (or, for that matter, "occasional regular role" players like Shelley Long or Fred Willard) get whenever an episode of Modern Family airs on some local station?
 
Patches O'houlihan said:
Here’s a setback for studios, trying to replace everything with AI.
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And here's a link, which I think say more than a picture (in this case, at least).

www.hollywoodreporter.com

AI-Created Art Isn’t Copyrightable, Judge Says in Ruling That Could Give Hollywood Studios Pause

A federal judge on Friday upheld a finding from the U.S. Copyright Office that a piece of art created by AI is not open to protection.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

Sure, there's probably some bullcrap loophole the studios' can utilize, but I can't imagine it'll be an easy one to find and crawl through.
 
I love how DiscussingFilm is so ruthless against those scumbags. The original article doesn't directly mention the fact that deals in other territories aren't fair but it's heavily implied and really, who would doubt that ? Those guys are this desperate to get all the money in the world.
 
Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos is reportedly concerned that if they give a fair deal to writers & actors in the U.S. that it will set a precedent for writers/actors in other territories to ask for fair deals.
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Writers & actors wanting fair deals is a great thing, not something to be concerned about. Being worried it becoming widespread really say a lot about those expressing such concerns, but also revealing that writers & directors aren't getting their dues.

In short, opinion like that of Sarandos show they are some of the worst capitalist monsters out there.
 
FanofSimpsons said:
At least this leaves Bob’s Burgers to last until spring 2024, unless the strikes end at a point that allows the creation of 5 more episodes. The Simpsons however, with only 12 episodes confirmed, might disappear sooner, after January maybe.
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Meanwhile, Family Guy already has 20 production episodes completed for the NACX production cycle, whilst the Season 4 production of The Great North on the other hand currently has 20 production episodes completed as of right now, so... I think Family Guy's gonna do okay for Season 22 this fall until May of next year
 
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FanofSimpsons said:
At least this leaves Bob’s Burgers to last until spring 2024, unless the strikes end at a point that allows the creation of 5 more episodes. The Simpsons however, with only 12 episodes confirmed, might disappear sooner, after January maybe.
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My opinion hasn't changed. Even with 12 eps. but this is still a solid number to disperse episode throughout all television season without significant hiatus (except that possible one from December to February) - put only on NFL days or with 3-4 weeks breaks, but still it wouldn't be something unnormal, IMHO.

The further fait can be discussed if/when strikes ends in a 1-2 months.
 
The article (the origin one from TheWrap) is another manipulation, if not obvious fake. That was made from nothing - see their sources: "TheWrap has learned", "was described to TheWrap by an individual with knowledge". Seriously? They're better they updated the article with WGA side - showrunners canceled yesterday's meeting.
See a couple of outraged writers' posts on X. (here is a one)
 
FanofSimpsons said:
At least this leaves Bob’s Burgers to last until spring 2024, unless the strikes end at a point that allows the creation of 5 more episodes. The Simpsons however, with only 12 episodes confirmed, might disappear sooner, after January maybe.
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I guess we also don't know exactly what's left unfinished with these episodes since animation appears to take the longest. It's odd that Simpsons would be so far behind, but maybe it's more due to them recording cast members in bulks at a time and a lot of voicing is missing?
 
Bob's Burgers are probably gonna have to save the last 5 DASA production episodes for like, perhaps Season 15. That way, Bob's Burgers might obviously still be able to air EASA production episodes afterwards. But what's the worse thing that could possibly happen?
 
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