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Same. Trying to catch up on a rewatch before they come out
I loved Jodie Whittaker as The Doctor, she was just short changed by the writing IMO. As the first female Doctor it feels like she was done a disservice.
This is my plan too. I've already rewatched series 3, but I plan on watching the rest of the RTD 1.0 era before the specials (obviously, I'm not watching in order).
Im just at the end of series 3. I need to hurry since I havent actually seen Stolen Earth/Journey's End before and want to get to it
I have written about the upcoming specials on my blog (I hope it's okay to share this here).
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A preliminary look at the Doctor Who 60th anniversary specials
The 60th anniversary of Doctor Who is fast approaching and it has raised many questions. When Jodie Whittaker's Thirteenth Doctor regenerate...
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Damn, this is good!
In short, I loved it. It felt like a suped-up high-budget series 4 episode. I thought it had a tonne of energy that was generally lacking throughout Jodie's tenure. While it wasn't as cerebral or thematically dense and incisive as anything Moffat spearheaded, it was just a whole lot of whimsical fun and I think that's great.
I liked it too. It was so good to see Tennant and Tate back. Series 4 was when Doctor Who was at its peak for me. I was less keen after that, although there have been some great episodes since then too.
Plot wise it was a fairly run of the mill outing, but the fast paced action and chemistry between the characters more than made up for that. I loved the character of Rose and the way her gender identity was handled, it was a nice touch making the villain a closet transphobe. It did feel a bit on the nose at times though. Did we need a sci-fi explanation for Rose was trans/non-binary? I also didn't care much for that dialogue at the end about how a "male presenting Time Lord" wouldn't understand the concept of "letting it go". It just screamed of a middle aged man's attempt at sounding feminist.
I loved the new TARDIS interior, it was a nice twist on the classic look. The theme tune was amazing too.
I can't wait for next week.
Plot wise it was a fairly run of the mill outing, but the fast paced action and chemistry between the characters more than made up for that. I loved the character of Rose and the way her gender identity was handled, it was a nice touch making the villain a closet transphobe. It did feel a bit on the nose at times though. Did we need a sci-fi explanation for Rose was trans/non-binary? I also didn't care much for that dialogue at the end about how a "male presenting Time Lord" wouldn't understand the concept of "letting it go". It just screamed of a middle aged man's attempt at sounding feminist.
I loved the new TARDIS interior, it was a nice twist on the classic look. The theme tune was amazing too.
I can't wait for next week.
The Spruce Moose
oh dear, I say!
I really enjoyed that, it felt fun again after the dirge of a lot of the Chibnall era, and Miriam Margolyes was clearly having the time of her life voicing Beep the Meep. Regarding the trans stuff, I thought the vast majority of it was handled well, but as has been previously said the "male presenting Time Lord" part was a bit cringe. Kinda felt like someone who has discovered 'wokeness' (for want of a better term) for the first time and is desperately trying to flagellate themselves for their own privilege.
Protecting Mum Donna bristling with righteous fury at her daughter being misgendered though? Sylvia and Donna talking about how they don't always know what to say, but they'll keep trying because they love Rose? Feeling truly herself once the Metacrisis has been dispelled? *Chefs kiss*
Protecting Mum Donna bristling with righteous fury at her daughter being misgendered though? Sylvia and Donna talking about how they don't always know what to say, but they'll keep trying because they love Rose? Feeling truly herself once the Metacrisis has been dispelled? *Chefs kiss*
Melvin & The Squirrels
Junior Camper
In The Two Doctors, The Doctor and Jamie are sent to Space Station J7. In light of The Doctor's comment that "officially, I'm here quite unofficially", it's likely that this mission was performed for the Gallifreyan CIA rather than for the High Council. The Doctor seems unable (or unwilling) to explain Victoria's sudden desire to study graphology to Jamie.
The Doctor's encounter with Shakespeare must take place after The Chase, in which The Doctor and companions see the Bard at Queen Elizabeth's court while using the Time-Space Visualizer. Had the meeting occurred before then, it seems certain that The Doctor would have mentioned it.
The Doctor's various adventures in China can only happen after Marco Polo, since The Doctor says in Power of the Daleks that this was his only previous visit to the country.
There's no onscreen evidence to support a meeting with the Daleks on Mars, but The Third Doctor isn't surprised by their appearance in Day of the Daleks, suggesting that he knows they survived their "final end" in The Evil of the Daleks, and since most of the Dalek defeats The Fourth Doctor mentions in Genesis of the Daleks are those of which he has first-hand knowledge, it seems plausible, at least, that this is no exception.
The encounter with the Drogue of Gabrielides mentioned in The Sun Makers seems out of character for The First Doctor, who rarely interfered on such a grand scale.
The Master's desire to destroy The Doctor must date from The Second Doctor's era, since The First Doctor doesn't recognise his classmate in The Five Doctors, but by the time of Terror of the Autons they've become adversaries (and a line in The Five Doctors seems to suggest that The Second Doctor is aware of his old friend's villainy).
The adventures in which The Doctor encounters Cleopatra's guard, and in which he is wounded at El Alamein, take place in Africa, which The Doctor doesn't visit for the first time until after Planet of Giants. I place them in Troughton's time as they seem out of character for The First Doctor.
The Doctor's assistance with a cure for the space plague fits the idea that The Doctor was performing missions for the Celestial Intervention Agency, since without this cure it's unlikely that the Draconians would be strong enough to assist in the Dalek wars mentioned in several stories.
The Doctor and Jamie's encounter with the Cybermen on Planet 14 is an unseen adventure, since none of their televised meetings with the Cybermen take place before The Invasion, at least in the Cybermen's timeline.
The meeting with Lady Peinforte is suggested by her statement in Silver Nemesis that The Doctor is "still little", a description which could only apply to The Second Doctor. Since that incarnation is almost as manipulative as The Seventh Doctor, the other events mentioned in Silver Nemesis would seem likely as well.
The Doctor's encounter with Shakespeare must take place after The Chase, in which The Doctor and companions see the Bard at Queen Elizabeth's court while using the Time-Space Visualizer. Had the meeting occurred before then, it seems certain that The Doctor would have mentioned it.
The Doctor's various adventures in China can only happen after Marco Polo, since The Doctor says in Power of the Daleks that this was his only previous visit to the country.
There's no onscreen evidence to support a meeting with the Daleks on Mars, but The Third Doctor isn't surprised by their appearance in Day of the Daleks, suggesting that he knows they survived their "final end" in The Evil of the Daleks, and since most of the Dalek defeats The Fourth Doctor mentions in Genesis of the Daleks are those of which he has first-hand knowledge, it seems plausible, at least, that this is no exception.
The encounter with the Drogue of Gabrielides mentioned in The Sun Makers seems out of character for The First Doctor, who rarely interfered on such a grand scale.
The Master's desire to destroy The Doctor must date from The Second Doctor's era, since The First Doctor doesn't recognise his classmate in The Five Doctors, but by the time of Terror of the Autons they've become adversaries (and a line in The Five Doctors seems to suggest that The Second Doctor is aware of his old friend's villainy).
The adventures in which The Doctor encounters Cleopatra's guard, and in which he is wounded at El Alamein, take place in Africa, which The Doctor doesn't visit for the first time until after Planet of Giants. I place them in Troughton's time as they seem out of character for The First Doctor.
The Doctor's assistance with a cure for the space plague fits the idea that The Doctor was performing missions for the Celestial Intervention Agency, since without this cure it's unlikely that the Draconians would be strong enough to assist in the Dalek wars mentioned in several stories.
The Doctor and Jamie's encounter with the Cybermen on Planet 14 is an unseen adventure, since none of their televised meetings with the Cybermen take place before The Invasion, at least in the Cybermen's timeline.
The meeting with Lady Peinforte is suggested by her statement in Silver Nemesis that The Doctor is "still little", a description which could only apply to The Second Doctor. Since that incarnation is almost as manipulative as The Seventh Doctor, the other events mentioned in Silver Nemesis would seem likely as well.
Since Peter Capaldi's debut episode I'd stopped keeping up to date with Doctor Who, but I've been watching this series and I've mostly enjoyed it so far. Space Babies was such a weird episode that I just had to laugh (especially that baby driving around in a pram holding a wee wooden dagger) . The Devils Chord had some cute moments but I grew tired of it quite quickly by the end and Boom has been the best of the bunch so far. That ended up being 45 minutes that just flew by.
Boom followed by 73 Yards is kind of an incredible pair of episodes, two 10/10 all time classics in a row, it would be like if Blink and Midnight came out right next to each other.
I think that this series is kind of interesting, in that a lot of the episodes are hard sells to people who just want standard Who, but when you look at it, in around 6 months we got Wild Blue Yonder, Boom and 73 Yards, and other modern eras of the show would be getting a trio of episodes like that over the course of years.
I think that this series is kind of interesting, in that a lot of the episodes are hard sells to people who just want standard Who, but when you look at it, in around 6 months we got Wild Blue Yonder, Boom and 73 Yards, and other modern eras of the show would be getting a trio of episodes like that over the course of years.
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A lot of fun with 'Rogue'
I actually appreciate the more basic approach to Rogue, not giving us much of anything in regards to background (other than the reveal he had a male lover before to establish sexuality). and clearly setting him up for future appearances. All that wild speculation he was everything from a time agent to a male incarnation of River or a recast Jack wasn't touched on at all, and instead the focus was on that incredible whirlwind flirtation with The Doctor that saw Rogue rise to the level of his equal rather rapidly. I love that the roles were reversed with the "run" scene and he led The Doctor by the hand.
I missed Richard E Grant's Shalka Doctor appearing on the first take, the images went by so quick, though I caught Jo Martin amongst the faces. None of the Doctors were in order I think either.
I do also like that The Doctor went the "coward...anyday" route again when faced with the choice of Ruby or the world. It's a very RTD era thing to do.
I actually appreciate the more basic approach to Rogue, not giving us much of anything in regards to background (other than the reveal he had a male lover before to establish sexuality). and clearly setting him up for future appearances. All that wild speculation he was everything from a time agent to a male incarnation of River or a recast Jack wasn't touched on at all, and instead the focus was on that incredible whirlwind flirtation with The Doctor that saw Rogue rise to the level of his equal rather rapidly. I love that the roles were reversed with the "run" scene and he led The Doctor by the hand.
I missed Richard E Grant's Shalka Doctor appearing on the first take, the images went by so quick, though I caught Jo Martin amongst the faces. None of the Doctors were in order I think either.
I do also like that The Doctor went the "coward...anyday" route again when faced with the choice of Ruby or the world. It's a very RTD era thing to do.
