i dunno. the ladder was decent, magnification was mostly eh. then again, those were well over 10 years ago. they must be bursting with fresh, progressive stuff...right? probably not, but i sure would like that. i don't think this new guy "gets it", like jon does (or did?). i suppose i could be wrong.
if yes can even get anywhere close to their last really good epic (mind drive), i will be somewhat happy.